Stock wheel caps 67 gs

Ryan474

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I'm fixing to buy some wheels for my 67' GS 2dr hardtop. I see that either a buick tri-shield or the thin bird is available for wheel caps.. Which one came on the GS?

Any help would be great.

Ryan
 
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The '67 brochure from the dealership shows the GS400 with chrome wheels and the tri-shield medallion. The Skylark models with chrome wheels are shown with the skylark bird medallion. For that year the GS400 is shown as a separate car series. This indicates it is not considered to be a Skylark.

Attached is a page from the Buick Special 1964-70 Parts Catalogue showing wheel types for 1967. Only the Skylark models with chrome wheels used the 1376690 skylark medallion. All others having chrome wheels used the 1376689 tri-shield medallion. Interesting to see 5 different wheel treatments were available on the GS400. Anything from dog dish hubcaps up to chrome wheels were offered.
 

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Todd, I have a 20+ year old Year One catalog that shows the tri-shield for the 67 GS and skinny bird for the Skylark series. I was going to post that, but an older OPGI catalog showed the skinny bird for Skylarks and the GS. So, I just didn't pass along anything. It is so hard to rid the internet of bad information once it gets out there!

Steve
 
Todd, I have a 20+ year old Year One catalog that shows the tri-shield for the 67 GS and skinny bird for the Skylark series. I was going to post that, but an older OPGI catalog showed the skinny bird for Skylarks and the GS. So, I just didn't pass along anything. It is so hard to rid the internet of bad information once it gets out there!

Steve
Steve, I know what you mean. Paper documents written by GM when the cars were new are the best source. When original data is later compiled, sorted and edited, errors are introduced. When someone comes along and streamlines the info again, the errors snowball. Just running old paper documents through a digital scanner introduces errors where fractions, fine print, charts, and small symbols get misread.
 

EdK225

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Thank you for the correction.. re : 1967, I will search what I have and post. whatever I can find re the 67 for you.. most of my material re body type applies only to the 64-65 Skylark..
This anecdotal, per memory.. I was an avid Buick car guy as a teen the 67, 68, during which I scoured a dozen auto grave yards on a regular basis as a hobby, up north near a major N.E. city between 1967 to 73.. dur h.s. and college.. I recall finding Skylarks, typically with the chrome script, but with no Gran Sport emblem that I always looked for and no ( GS till about 1970 -73).. Those Skylarks re 67 - 69 were of the lengthened wheelbase used after the (4300 model/body used only for 64-65). The only hint of any large cu in under the hood re the 67 - 69 was that cryptic white "350" or "400" imprint found on the illuminated side marker lights (yellow forward and red aft) in the rear quarter panels.
I always found that very odd, that Buick was virtue signalling in this case discretely "cu in signaling" !!! to the youth market using those little illuminated side marker lamps after they actually went to the special effort re the 65 Skylark, to create a small rectangular "red background enamaled" badge "Gran Sport"..for only that one model year..... almost three years eariler.. This while they were having their lunch eaten by Malibu, GTO, GTX, Charger, Shelby Cobra crowd. I was always looking for that in your face response by Buick showing they had a credible performance product and while at the salvage yards looking under the hood for performance items. During those years there was very little aftermarket interest in appealing to Buick enthusiast.

A while back I found this ancient 1965 ad per the overt but IMO almost non extant ad campaign for the 65 Skylark, re a 400 cu in, bucket seats, floor shift syncro 3 speed, heavy duty suspension, 7.75 X 14s, perf differential ratios. 65 SKYLARK GRAN SPORT ad.jpgAd is attached..
 
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Ed,
As I noted, this thread is about the 1967 model. Your ad is for the 1965 model.

Do you have any GM paper indicating the 1967 GS400 was considered a Skylark?
 

EdK225

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See above, TY..
I'm sure you know this... The below para was extracted as shown.. It references the 65 Skylark w Gran Sport option initially offered in 65 with almost a many sales the following year, which would have been 1966, with the renaming to GS 400 noted in 1967, "and the Gran Sport became it's own model in (about) that same year along with a new "400" engine" So apparently in 1967 you could purchase a GS 400 and also purchase in (about) ??? that same year the Gran Sport with the new 400 eng !! It beggs the question what would be the differences between the two ??
One might try contacting the official "Historian" of Buick Motor Div, They may have had such an corporate position and office back then. If they did it's likely they would still have archived records that could be obtained on request. Those official documents should pinpoint exactly when these models underwent name drops and or name changes, their sales figures, which IMO would be needed by their internal auditors etc etc..


Per … https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buick_Gran_Sport

The 1965 Skylark Gran Sport was the intermediate Buick Skylark with the Gran Sport option added. Although a 300 in3 (4,916 cc) V8 was already offered in the Skylark, the Gran Sport had the largest engine permitted by GM - a 401 cu in (6,571 cc) Buick V8 (called a 400 by Buick because that was the maximum engine size allowed in intermediate body cars). This engine produced 325 hp (242 kW) and 445 lb·ft (603 Nm) and was known as the "nailhead" engine. Buick sold more than 15,000 Skylarks with the Gran Sport option that first year, and almost as many the next. It was renamed the GS 400 in 1967, and the Gran Sport became its own model in (about) that same year along with a new "400" engine quite different from the famously reliable but becoming-obsolete nailhead engine design that was first introduced in 1953.


Well per the above it's not as airtingt as I would want, I'll still keep checking but you may soon to be able to print you own 1967 SKYLARK Gran Sport, or any other vehicle or order one.. The US Gov't Dep't of Energy printed a fully functioning vehicle in six weeks.. check out this astounding
development.. Ed


Here's Why the US Government 3-D Printed a Classic Muscle Car
Innovations in Manufacturing at Oak Ridge National Laboratory


by Kristen Hall-Geisler Oct 16, 2015 on You Tube..

 
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As a 65, 66 and 67 Buick guy I can add this:

The 65 Skylark models were divided by engine type. The 444XX models were v8 equipped and the 443XX models were v6 equipped. The Gran Sport was an option for the v8 Skylark in that year and shares the same model numbers. The only way to tell the difference is a S in the fourth accessory line on the the trim plate (Freemont cars do not include the S). This indicated the Gran Sport option. Also, the last eight places of the vin are stamped on the engine. So, the 400 (401) CI engine stamping need to match the vin to be an actual Gran Sport. The engine code for the Gran Sport was LR and it should be stamped on the engine (some LT coded engines were used). The non-convertible Gran Sports were equipped with the boxed convertible frame. The Gran sport had a nailhead specific NK coded ST-300 transmission. Three and four speed manuals were another option for the Skylark Gran Sport. The three speed manual used was specific to the Gran Sport option and the four speed had a close ratio transmission not available for the other Skylarks.

The 66 Skylark Gran Sport got its own separate model number and vin designation, These were 446XX models. It used the same engine 400 (401) CI engine and nailhead specific NK coded ST 300 transmission as the 65 Gran Sport. This year the engine stamp was coded MR and, again, had the last 8 places of the vin stamped on the engine. It had the same transmission options as the 65 Gran Sport option. The rest of the Skylarks were divided by engine type. The v6 Skylarks were 443XX (225 CI) and the v8 Skylarks were 444XX (300 and 340 CI). The Sport Wagon had a 444XX model number too.

The 67 GS 400 used the same 446XX model codes as the 66 Skylark Gran Sport, but it was now listed as its own model separate from the Skylarks. This had the new generation 400 CI engine and a ST-400 transmission. Also available were a three speed and four speed manual transmission specific to the GS 400. The Skylarks were V8s in model 444XX (Sport Wagons too) and 443XX Skylarks could be either v8s or v6s.

That should clear some things up.
 
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EdK225

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Thank You Dr. Frankenbuick, that's great info, will copy for the 3 ring binder, to add to my libary... My youngest son is in his mid 30s, he loves the "Buick", want's his youngsters to eventually care for it, so we are re re-storing and retrofitting it. He mispent his youth re race engine swapping mills re Honda's. He is getting to understand how these vehicles function without computers, racing chips, nitros. I on the other hand find it amazing that with all that is published, there is so much that is known only by the real "subject matter experts" re your post.. who have encountered and solved issues, as well as the chalenges of finding even used parts that were interchangeable, even though back in the day before the internet and retail point of sale computers there was the Hollanders interchange manual.. Then they..were not reaidly accessable unless you had a friend or family in the business.. This time, in some ways it is easier and in other ways still difficult. Thanks again for your assistance..
 

EdK225

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I found an on line pub, MUSCLE CARS FIELD GUIDE PDF ..by John Gunnell AMERICAN SUPERCARS free download, https://silo.tips/download/muscle-cars-field-guide# I downloaded it then ran it through my antivirus isolated sand box, then my cloud antivirus. Took less 3 sec, all clear. One impressive / comprehensive review of virtually every muscle car, from that era with great images also. Worth downloading for your reference materials, IMO. The text for the 1967 (unSkylark) is found in the Buick section, I extracted that segment see below.
In ’67, Buick got serious about its mid-size muscle. The old “nailhead” V-8 disappeared and a new 400-cid V-8 replaced it. “GS 400” was now the higher-performance model’s official name. Bulging front-facing scoops decorated the hood and front-slanting air slots appeared behind the front wheels. Other standard equipment included a rallye stripe, GS badges, foam-padded vinyl seats, and twin exhausts. The hydraulic-lifter engine was modernized and smoother and tolerated higher rpms. It had 10.25:1 compression and a big four-barrel carb. Hooked behind it you could get a three-speed or a four-speed stick shift or a new three-speed automatic that could be shifted manually. Options included a tach and a 3.90:1 posi rear. This year the GS 400s were in their own series. Hardtop, post-coupe. and ragtop versions were offered. As in 1966, all body styles used the beefi er ragtop-type frame. A big, sturdy chassis rode on F70x14 Wide-Oval tires. The GS 400 offered superior handling. Motor Trend said it had “the best road behavior of any car we’ve driven in quite a while.” Power front disc brakes were a new $147 handling option. Buick prices were higher than those of rival muscle cars. This tended to hold sales down. The company built just 1,014 post-coupes, 10,659 hardtops and 2,140 ragtops. MCFG Says: (CPE) $16K; (HT) $18.5K; (RT) $23K He Says: “Before the wheels had made their fi rst revolution, we immediately noticed that the ’67 GS 400 was going to be an even far stronger performer than its 1966 counterpart— which itself was no slouch,” said Motor Trend’s Steve Kelly. We Says: “Ads summed it up best: ‘The car that enthusiasts are enthusiastic about.’”
 
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