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Thanks. I lowered the column a few inches and checked the rod travel again. It goes all the way to start and all the way to accessory. I can also see the slider through the side. I see it move along...

I wish I hadn't tried that other buick forum first. Someone there had me take the ignition switch off to check for key rack travel. Maybe it's not their fault. Our mechanic told us it needed a new...

Still getting nothing on either side of 1A while turned to start.

The wires on fuse 1B are strange. There are two small pink wires going to only one side of the fuse. I didn't think fuses worked...

So what does this result mean? From the diagram it looks like the starter enable relay isn't sending power through.

I tried to bypass that relay by grounding what I think was the right wire from...

I couldn't wait so I checked the yellow/black wire coming off the vats module for voltage and ohms. Used the ground point on the steering column.

Key @ off, .1mv and 5 ohms
Key @ Run, 50mv and...

Hey TODD, thanks for responding to those older posts. But, this one here is where I'm at in this so far. I think I have a complete bypass of the vats module figured out. I just need someone to...

Okay so that bizarre battery wasting relearn thing worked again. Security light is going off after the dinging stops every time.

Tested as you described and I'm getting no power at fuse 1A. ...

Thanks!

This is kind of a different topic. But, this is insane so I'll just say what happened. I went to do the test and checked the battery first since the car has been sitting exactly one day...

I just started it by shorting the solenoid. I let it run for awhile since it's been sitting. Runs great.

Seems like that leaves the ignition switch or that other thing that has several names like...

Finally got the security bypassed for now, its just a resistor bypass atm. Anyway the security light is now behaving.

To test if I'm getting power to the starter from the ignition switch, I...

After about the 10th time looking at this wiring diagram, I think I may have figured it out.

https://www.teambuick.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7264&d=1506588142

There is a yellow and...

Found the replacement part here. http://www.autozone.com/batteries-starting-and-charging/neutral-safety-switch/duralast-neutral-safety-switch/202931_0_0

One of those connectors should hold the...

Found it again. http://www.pontiacbonnevilleclub.com/forum/1992/topic33924.html

Not exactly a buick but they're dealing with passkey and vats.

Second post to the bottom says,

And here,...

72807281This one has me stumped. First, I thought I could pull back the headliner and roll this out. But I see from vids of these cars with the liners out that there's metal reinforcenment "beams"...

Back to the original topic of this thread, just in case I need it later...

I read online somewhere that to fix this you have to find the right wire, (somewhere near the neutral switch?) cut it and...

I tried to solder wires to the old key pellet. I got one side on alright. But the other side's plastic went liquid and swallowed the contact.:jeez: I have another key I could try. But, soldering...

Ok so bypassing the starter enable relay wouldn't be the end of it, even if it seemed possible because there's also the fuel pump enable relay to worry about.

The easiest way seems to be the...

I read that it may be possible to get to it from behind the instrument cluster. I didnt want to break it so it took awhile of gently pulling for it to pop off. Wish I'd known it just plugs in and...

7270That must be it, huh? And it looks like that orange connector goes to the pcm.

Thanks, but I couldn't make much sense of those diagrams. Looks like one wire leaves the module and goes to the ignition enable relay. But I apparently need to bypass that relay with a length of...

This image was for a 92 park avenue. I know the 93s have mostly the same parts. Maybe this one does too?
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Looks like removing the instrument panel would be necessary to reach it. Sheesh i hope...

Man, in all my weeks of searching the net and asking questions at forums, nobody ever mentioned there might be a starter disabling relay too.

This probably explains my no crank situation after...

I think the wire join I mentioned above is called a butt joint. I got the quick disconnect kit in case we ever need to disable the car. So I'll solder in the wires of the disconnect kit, not the...

I just noticed that the dark blue wire at position A3 in the schematics IS circuit 229 just like the instructions describe. Awesome. Now if I can just find a list of what those other wires on the...

Wow. Hmm. So I guess it just drains the battery fairly quickly just having it hooked up for a few hours while tinkering with the passkey reset procedures.

One set of instructions did say to hook...